Does politicans need university level education?
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They don't need it in the sense that they are saying that are better than more than half the population cause they know things and how to manipulate masses, but yes because they need to know how the country rolls and what they need to do to mnaintain its good relationships nwith other countries. Hmmm
Well, to add a few facts, this was about swedish politicans, and here it's not unusal to go to university. Considering everyone can choose go to university it can't really be said that going to univeristy is something only for the 'upper class'.
As for the argument I had with the classmate of mine, he said uni was needed which I said it wasn't. For example, a doctor spend years at a univeristy but he has no knowledge of politics or how society works. Then you have the one who started working after college and has been involved with politics one way or another. Even indirectly. So for that the person who worked would be a better politican as he has knowledge about society that the doctor might not have.
Just for thought :3
As for the argument I had with the classmate of mine, he said uni was needed which I said it wasn't. For example, a doctor spend years at a univeristy but he has no knowledge of politics or how society works. Then you have the one who started working after college and has been involved with politics one way or another. Even indirectly. So for that the person who worked would be a better politican as he has knowledge about society that the doctor might not have.
Just for thought :3
I don't think they need a University degree, at all. But's good to have a college degrees, it aids in many ways. A degree can boost up your reputation and recognition faster. It's a plus if you have a degree in Liberal Arts of some kind(civics, politics, philosophy and etc.), you will get around faster with that knowledge.
[quote name='Luluyuyu']Well, to add a few facts, this was about swedish politicans, and here it's not unusal to go to university. Considering everyone can choose go to university it can't really be said that going to univeristy is something only for the 'upper class'.
As for the argument I had with the classmate of mine, he said uni was needed which I said it wasn't. For example, a doctor spend years at a univeristy but he has no knowledge of politics or how society works. Then you have the one who started working after college and has been involved with politics one way or another. Even indirectly. So for that the person who worked would be a better politican as he has knowledge about society that the doctor might not have.
Just for thought :3[/QUOTE]
Even in Sweden, your average joe cant go to uni, simply because he lacks the intellect. Unless they allow everyone, regardless of their intellectual performance to enroll, in which case one can wonder whether having a university degree makes much of a difference.
And lol, I heard that the people from Swedish socialist party or something had made it their unofficial tradition to drop out of uni or something. Is that true?
As for the argument I had with the classmate of mine, he said uni was needed which I said it wasn't. For example, a doctor spend years at a univeristy but he has no knowledge of politics or how society works. Then you have the one who started working after college and has been involved with politics one way or another. Even indirectly. So for that the person who worked would be a better politican as he has knowledge about society that the doctor might not have.
Just for thought :3[/QUOTE]
Even in Sweden, your average joe cant go to uni, simply because he lacks the intellect. Unless they allow everyone, regardless of their intellectual performance to enroll, in which case one can wonder whether having a university degree makes much of a difference.
And lol, I heard that the people from Swedish socialist party or something had made it their unofficial tradition to drop out of uni or something. Is that true?
[quote name='Luluyuyu' timestamp='1306364640' post='93128']
After having a pretty stupid argument with an old classmate of mine on this topic I came to wonder, does politicans need university level education to be good politicans? Let's hear your thoughts why they need or not need it, and what difference it might make.
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It's all about their sense of justice IMO(necessary), but higher qualification is necessary as well, but they aren't compulsory IMO.
After having a pretty stupid argument with an old classmate of mine on this topic I came to wonder, does politicans need university level education to be good politicans? Let's hear your thoughts why they need or not need it, and what difference it might make.
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It's all about their sense of justice IMO(necessary), but higher qualification is necessary as well, but they aren't compulsory IMO.
[quote name='Kaze Araki' timestamp='1306669079' post='140370']
Sarah Palin is a good example, worthy of discussion.
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Palin actually went to a university. Quite a lot of them in fact
http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/paper-trail/2008/09/05/sarah-palins-extensive-college-career
http://www.slate.com/id/2201332/
And on top of that, one can wonder what a good politician really is? Most people will probably just say that the candidate they would vote for is a good politician (because else THEY wouldnt vote for it of course). By that logic, it would mean that Palin is actually a pretty good politician as plenty of people seem to like her/consider voting for her. University has no impact on this definition (lacking one could actually help you in certain right wing circles).
The other possible definition of a good politician would then be based on the competences such a person has. Such a person would need charisma, the ability to work out a compromise, a decent knowledge on the state of the world and the biggest issues, and perhaps have some clear idea on how to solve such problems. A higher education could help with that, but isnt really necessary. One could always read all the newspapers to find out about the problems, and as for solving them, university doesnt really teach you that either. And especially in the US, one can be a perfect president even with a minimal knowledge on how most things work. All he has to do is pick is advisors correctly, and listen to their advice.
Sarah Palin is a good example, worthy of discussion.
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Palin actually went to a university. Quite a lot of them in fact
http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/paper-trail/2008/09/05/sarah-palins-extensive-college-career
http://www.slate.com/id/2201332/
And on top of that, one can wonder what a good politician really is? Most people will probably just say that the candidate they would vote for is a good politician (because else THEY wouldnt vote for it of course). By that logic, it would mean that Palin is actually a pretty good politician as plenty of people seem to like her/consider voting for her. University has no impact on this definition (lacking one could actually help you in certain right wing circles).
The other possible definition of a good politician would then be based on the competences such a person has. Such a person would need charisma, the ability to work out a compromise, a decent knowledge on the state of the world and the biggest issues, and perhaps have some clear idea on how to solve such problems. A higher education could help with that, but isnt really necessary. One could always read all the newspapers to find out about the problems, and as for solving them, university doesnt really teach you that either. And especially in the US, one can be a perfect president even with a minimal knowledge on how most things work. All he has to do is pick is advisors correctly, and listen to their advice.
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Even in Sweden, your average joe cant go to uni, simply because he lacks the intellect. Unless they allow everyone, regardless of their intellectual performance to enroll, in which case one can wonder whether having a university degree makes much of a difference. And lol, I heard that the people from Swedish socialist party or something had made it their unofficial tradition to drop out of uni or something. Is that true?
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Well, depending on uni or college, we have three kinds of uni here >_>' well, depending on what you want to read it's not impossible for anyone to get in. If you don't get in after finishing college / high school you can always take the courses necessarry and take a uni exam, of you pass you'll get in. And finishing a course in uni and having a degree is two whole different things if I have kept up....
And well, as I see it a uni degree may not always help, that depends on what degree you have of course. Back on track, a uni degree may not do a single thing as a good politican in my opinion is supposed to be able to tell what is the best solution for the people and enviroment. Not the most money-making one or doing just what is shown on papers. As for example, what the politicans are doing with the swedish school system atm is just stupid and they should let people who know what it is like make the changes. So in most cases I would say a degree doesn't matter as they still do stupid changes. The politican who can understand what the people and society need is maybe the teacher at your school and not the people who is active for what ever reason.
And I have no idea about them dropping out ^^' I don't keep up that much xDDD
Even in Sweden, your average joe cant go to uni, simply because he lacks the intellect. Unless they allow everyone, regardless of their intellectual performance to enroll, in which case one can wonder whether having a university degree makes much of a difference. And lol, I heard that the people from Swedish socialist party or something had made it their unofficial tradition to drop out of uni or something. Is that true?
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Well, depending on uni or college, we have three kinds of uni here >_>' well, depending on what you want to read it's not impossible for anyone to get in. If you don't get in after finishing college / high school you can always take the courses necessarry and take a uni exam, of you pass you'll get in. And finishing a course in uni and having a degree is two whole different things if I have kept up....
And well, as I see it a uni degree may not always help, that depends on what degree you have of course. Back on track, a uni degree may not do a single thing as a good politican in my opinion is supposed to be able to tell what is the best solution for the people and enviroment. Not the most money-making one or doing just what is shown on papers. As for example, what the politicans are doing with the swedish school system atm is just stupid and they should let people who know what it is like make the changes. So in most cases I would say a degree doesn't matter as they still do stupid changes. The politican who can understand what the people and society need is maybe the teacher at your school and not the people who is active for what ever reason.
And I have no idea about them dropping out ^^' I don't keep up that much xDDD
