Mafia AG: The Villagers DT [GG]

[Geoff]

But, if she's a mafia helper like she says she is, I've got no choice but to belive that the Assassins don't read everything on the thread, as I'm getting the hunch they don't.

That, or the alternative - That the villagers have a very clever player among them.

The real question is why am I still alive? Assassins tend to kill players that are eventually going to catch them. If I'm not dead it points that I've defended the assassin before - that or I've been harmless to them. The people I've defended thus far are Noex and Moi.
Why are you not dead yet either Viva? You've done the opposite that I have.

That could of course point, that both noex and Moi are completely out of the assassins, therefore they won't care if we kill them or not.
And if they haven't killed us, it means we haven't accused the right players. Especially if they thought Ellure was a better target then you or I.


But I digress. I think the assassins are stupidos. Playing loops is always dangerous. :3

 

[VivaLaDementia]

Sorry, but I don't buy it at all.
There is more then enough evidence to logically conclude Blue is the most likely to be a villager at this point compared to everyone else.

Why am I alive? Because I've pointed fingers all over the place and people don't typically kill me before Day 3 to begin with.
Why are you alive? Most likely because you barely do speak and when you do, its every other day accusing a random innocent.
Or thats why I think anyway.

Fact that you are so likely to assume Blue to be safe speaks wonders right now to me.

 

[Rum]

Well who the Villagers have/have not killed is pretty baffling. I think those who are the assassins are killing random players so as to keep us guessing and keeping most of the vocal people around because as what Geoff pretty much alluded to, maybe we haven't been pointing the finger at the right people so far?

Viva's reasoning to vote Blue is pretty sound. If it turns up wrong, you won't see me crucifying anyone for it because Blue has pretty much created reasons to be suspicious.

 

[BlueDarkness]

Definitely food for thought. I also thought it was strange how the kills have lined up. One thing I don't have info on, is when people were inactive or not.

However in this case, I'd say let her live for now.
Why?

a) If she is working for our benefit, guess who the assassins will kill? Surprise surprise.
b) If she actually is part of our team, this would be like willfully hurting outselves.
c) It's easy to copy paste the already posted roles on the front of the thread. She either invented a role completely on the spot, or she knows what she's talking about.

Keep the lynch, and take out another player. I don't really care who, since I have no good guesses at the moment. Cross our fingers that he's a villager. Right now, I can only say a few people that I don't think are assassins, and at that, I've got 0 garentee that they really are or not.

There is a few things more that I can't say out on the thread until the day is over, without tipping the assassins off to what I'm thinking.
Viva, you probably know what, so keep it quiet until the day is over. >:[ Otherwise we may just get the short straw drawn on all of this.



I will say this though about jarret. There is very little chance he is an assassin. Ellure would never have died by his hand.

I'm a guy D:

Anyways...

A. Hehe, I won't be surprised if this happens. Unfortunately for me, the results are only my own. I can either hold on to them or sell them out publicly. If I hold on to them and just randomly preach what the missing people are, that really wouldn't help my case either.
B. Lol, another one bites the dust~ I'm Mafia, but again, I'll let you all kill me if you need proof since I'm not going to survive today at this rate.
C. I know what I'm talking about. Check the wiki. http://wiki.epicmafia.com:8081/index.php?title=Mortician
In the case of this AG, my abilities aren't any dead people, just the missing, and the alignment is Mafia, since villagers are assassins this game

[MENTION=1507]Geoff[/MENTION] / [MENTION=41]Aidan[/MENTION]
Well this is how I view the Bluedarkness thing:
1) Crestham confirmed to us Bluedarkness was inactive Day 1 by making a formal warning.
2) Janitor-like role didn't do anything Day 1.
3) Bluedarkness goes public (YESTERDAY) about having a special role that isn't listed on the front page, which if I recall from crestham's last game - all the goodie roles were listed publicly in his last AG but this role is not.
4) Instead of going after Bluedarkness who confirms they have a special role, they go after Ellure who hasn't been talking and risk the very likely change of killing a plain mafia member instead of a granted special member of the mafia - Why would they do that? There is no reason at all.
5) None of these so called missing-player investigations can be confirmed by us.
6) None of these so called missing-player investigations are shown in the daily post, when Crestham has been giving 2-3 sentences per action each day.

Honestly, if all that doesn't convince you, I have to ask - Who else do you think is a better choice??

Aidan - Yeah, I don't know what the Ellure thing was about either. Its pretty strange, but I want to lean towards the idea that they assumed she had a special role.

There's nothing I can do about this >_< Only I get the results. So one of two things will happen today probably.

1. By my own teammates suspicious of me being the Janitor.
2. Killed off by the assassins, since I could be a flaw in their plans either way.

Or, I'll be very surprised neither happens, and something entirely unexpected does. You never know.

But, if she's a mafia helper like she says she is, I've got no choice but to belive that the Assassins don't read everything on the thread, as I'm getting the hunch they don't.

That, or the alternative - That the villagers have a very clever player among them.

The real question is why am I still alive? Assassins tend to kill players that are eventually going to catch them. If I'm not dead it points that I've defended the assassin before - that or I've been harmless to them. The people I've defended thus far are Noex and Moi.
Why are you not dead yet either Viva? You've done the opposite that I have.

That could of course point, that both noex and Moi are completely out of the assassins, therefore they won't care if we kill them or not.
And if they haven't killed us, it means we haven't accused the right players. Especially if they thought Ellure was a better target then you or I.


But I digress. I think the assassins are stupidos. Playing loops is always dangerous. :3

Really? I don't think they are too stupid... a lot of Mafia are already dead. But what good is throwing accusations unless you try lynching them? They may even see me as harmless, as I can only see the roles of the dead. And I dont even find that out till the next day too.
You and Viva are thinking on opposite spectrums... it is nteresting enough point. I won't throw accusations, but it's something to think about.

eh... I guess I don't have too much to say. except I'm inclined to believe blue darkness, though maybe that's too trusting. But revealing their role like that is definitely a big risk, if they're telling the truth. >.>

My role is useless otherwise, only I get the results, it's not public >_>

 

[Pimp]

lol [MENTION=1296]BlueDarkness[/MENTION] i was wondering who the she they were talking about

 

[Rum]

C. I know what I'm talking about. Check the wiki. http://wiki.epicmafia.com:8081/index.php?title=Mortician
In the case of this AG, my abilities aren't any dead people, just the missing, and the alignment is Mafia, since villagers are assassins this game

Well, this pretty much seals the deal on why people should vote you.

You do realize that the alignment for that role is Villager, right? You do realize the Villagers in this game are the assassins, yes?

Now take a look at the roles that Crestham publicly noted that would be in the game. The roles he lists for the Mafia are Mafia aligned roles(Quack, Stalker) on that epicmafia wiki and the villager roles Crestham provides are ones aligned with the Villagers(Mimic, Bulletproof).

I'm sorry but you are hiding something and you either messed up on trying to conceal what your real role is(third-party?) or you are a Villager.

@VivaLaDementia, thoughts?

 

[Jimzy]

EDIT: This post is a reply to BD's.
^I find that the most suspicious. You aren't contributing at all.
LOL, I am not contributing either. XD

For now, the best thing to do is to figure out if BlueDarkness is telling the truth. However, we should not rest the case that him and Viva are suspicious. The fact that there is such a role is sort of worthless for me, really, just investigation won't help. But if the ability does say that one can find the missing people, it is more worth it. (find to return back into the game)

 

[BlueDarkness]

Well, this pretty much seals the deal on why people should vote you.

You do realize that the alignment for that role is Villager, right? You do realize the Villagers in this game are the assassins, yes?

Now take a look at the roles that Crestham publicly noted that would be in the game. The roles he lists for the Mafia are Mafia aligned roles(Quack, Stalker) on that epicmafia wiki and the villager roles Crestham provides are ones aligned with the Villagers(Mimic, Bulletproof).

I'm sorry but you are hiding something and you either messed up on trying to conceal what your real role is(third-party?) or you are a Villager.

@VivaLaDementia, thoughts?

I completely understand that. But why, exactly, would the villagers need a Mortician? I was given the role of mortician and thats that, for the Mafia o_o
Kill me off~ Im not hiding anything..., but note this when I'm dead. Remember, we switched places this AG.

 

[VivaLaDementia]

I was long sold on the matter that BlueDarkness is the most suspicious player right now, hence my vote. No need to convince me further Aidan~

 

[Rum]

I completely understand that. But why, exactly, would the villagers need a Mortician? I was given the role of mortician and thats that, for the Mafia o_o
Kill me off~ Im not hiding anything..., but note this when I'm dead. Remember, we switched places this AG.

And I understand that but what I'm really asking is why would Crestham include that role? What he provided is pretty clear cut. Mafia have mafia-aligned roles and Villagers have villager-aligned roles.

Sorry, I just find it odd that all of sudden you have this Mortician role yet you are Mafia when in fact the role is truly set for the villagers? Why all of sudden would Crestham rock the cradle? Just plain odd and well, suspicious.

 

[VivaLaDementia]

BlueDarkness GMV, I want to ensure my death just for clarification reasons. The only problem is if my role ends up being missing >_> Then that will truly suck.

Calling it now, BlueDarkness will be missing tomorrow. Pretty much telling us its going to happen right there, with the hopes we pass it off to mean he was a mafia member.

 

[BlueDarkness]

And I understand that but what I'm really asking is why would Crestham include that role? What he provided is pretty clear cut. He gave mafia people, mafia-aligned roles and the same for Villagers.

Sorry, I just find it odd that all of sudden you have this Mortician role yet you are Mafia when in fact the role is truly set for the villagers? Why all of sudden would Crestham rock the cradle? Just plain odd and well, suspicious.

*shrugs*
Well, I'll happily die as a "sacrifice" to prove myself and hope the Mafia goes in the right direction after today.

Just one other note, roles are missing, that means they have a Janitor, but the role wasn't mentioned either in the public roles.

And I don't blame you, why he would do that I'm not too sure. But it ended up me dead, lol. I will say whatever else is needed before today ended, but otherwise, wish you luck. ^^

Calling it now, BlueDarkness will be missing tomorrow. Pretty much telling us its going to happen right there, with the hopes we pass it off to mean he was a mafia member.

And I call it would probably happen anyways...

 

[Pimp]

Nothing about this is normal....Creatham has been playing with us from the beginning. First we don't know how many of which are on each side for all we know it could be 3 villagers total and this has caused us a lot of infighting in trying to figure it out. Then we have the odd voting rules thrown in.

So instead of trying to use logic to figure this out how about everyone just go with their guts this vote around instead of working on a single vote.

 

[Seraph Lucis Eli]

Well, pimpd, going to have to agree with you there. If various theories and logic paths aren't working, chances are that the opposing side is simply toying with us.

So, on this case, I will go with my gut feeling (sometimes the best way to play a day, mind you) and see who I see as the suspicious one. I got to admit BD here's both plausible and implausible at the same time. It's logical that Crest decides to mess with the basic system, yet also logical that he keeps the original "wiki" standards. In short, this is a 50/50 scenario and the only course of action is to "flip a coin" and hope for the best.

Forging my own path, AG style.

 

[Notorious]

First of all, I would like to apologise for being inactive, some RL activities came up. Also, I would like to announce that I will be away for a day, so I will be inactive on Saturday, and maybe Sunday too. If the GM says that I have to be killed, so be it. But I would like to play til the end, so I hope everyone understands ^^

Also having read Aidan's sound logic, (as well as BD's own self-revealing post) I've decided to vote BlueDarkness too

 

[noex1337]

I'm not quite sure what we have to gain with killing blue darkness, it seems most of this happened while i was worrying over a certain other game. Anyways, even if BlueDarkness is a Villager, I'm not sure what kind of clues that gives us for the next villager. But I'm operating under the assumption that he (or she, not quite sure) is telling the truth. Maybe it's because BlueDarkness is a relatively new AGer, but I can't imagine them fabricating a role. That being said, losing the mortician doesn't seem to do too much harm, since finding out the role of a dead guy hasn't really been helping us. But all of that is not enough to convince me to vote them, so maybe i'm missing something.

 

[Crestham]

Day has ended. Abilities and voting are closed.

 

[Crestham]

Another one selected, another one killed. Day after day, each Mafia may either be securing the top position or leading the entire faction to their doom at the hands of the villagers. For this day, they had chosen it to be the doomsday of one. "I'm the Mortician! I examine dead bodies! I'm aligned with the Mafia!" he shouted. The other Mafia were all like, "That's a villager oriented role, it says so in the wiki!" while others were smart enough to notice that he was breaking the fourth wall, they certainly weren't smart enough to notice that their associate was really one of them until he had been hung.

"Sir, another one has gone missing," the Mafioso reported in to his superior. The superior was pissed off with the current situation, so many of his Mafia had died and yet none of the villagers had been killed off yet.

Short Version

1. BlueDarkness, the Mortician, has been lynched.

2. VivaLaDementia is Missing!

 

[Pimp]

well i said not to go with logic... but eh who cares.

So how about this vote we stop trying to analyze the motives of people and we just go with gut feelings.

well off to make my vote.

 

[Biomega]

Bah, yeah -- pick on poor BlueDarkness, but not Geoff. He is special, somehow.

Calling it now, BlueDarkness will be missing tomorrow.

Kind of ironic.