[quote name='godofwar7']That's probably it then, though it seems to deal more with grappling and crom seems to have discounted grappling already[/QUOTE]
well Jujitsu is more for Defeating Armed oppeants who also wear armor...
Jiujitsu is Brazillan and what the mixed martial artist use
meh why discount Grappling its a legit fighting style as well....
and Crom answer... what does a Boxer do when in a Joint lock from an Akido master or
on the ground and being forced into submission by a Jiujitsu master
how do they counter...
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as you see Akido, and Judo span from this art as did Jiujitsu (I knew Akido and Judo did but not Jiujitsu)
in this you provke your oppanent to attack and you use their own force against them
which is basically Akido although in Akido you throw more often then Joint Lock...
Judo typically, and most of the moves in it are because of the clothes they were. Most of the grapples are based off that, the Gi's have a functional purpose also. And if they get grabbed, they get grabbed and have to deal with it any way any other person would. But it wouldent even get to that point, which is what GW7 is saying.
And what GW7 is saying by saying its discounted is that before the person gets a chance to even grapple it wouldent even happen. Because as I explained before in the post previously, you can just dive in there and grab someone. Unless you bother start off on the ground in a fight (lol), the grappler is going to have to try to get close. And boxers have strategy to keep someone away, or to lure them into coming forward and taking them out. For instance, theres the fient and step back, which is where you throw some bullshit punch you know isnt gonna hit anyone or do damage, then you step back with your weight on the back foot, at that point the person will think "He threw a punch he missed, now is my time to get them" and when you take a step back it looks like youre on the defensive and expecting to get hit, which gives them the cue that they can go on the offensive to get you. At that point theyll be stepping in, and with your weight on the back foot you take them out with a straight right. Not only that, but just the way boxing is and the stance and common movements are more than enough to keep someone away. Like I said before, the legs aid in movement, since boxing has the most balanced stance and weight on both legs, you can move in all directions quickly. Not noly that but there are also styles of boxing. In out boxing, the weight is shifted slightly more to the back leg, that way you can back step quickly, then when they come forward to hit you you can nail them with the quicker punches (Jabs and Straights). This technique along with headbutting (which is obviously illegal) is what infuriated boxing legend Mike Tyson into biting Holyfields ear which resulted in him turning into a joke despite his extreme talent in the sport. Every time Mike stepped in to get close he'd get nailed by jabs constantly, then once he was finally close enough to use his in-fighting punches (in fighting is the exact opposite of out boxing, where you use the punches with less range, but theyre way stronger than the straight punches and are almost impossible to block) Holyfield would just step back and throw more quick punches or just headbutt him (which is very painful). So using that technique you can keep a grappler away, and since they dont know about the technique boxers use to fight, they wont see it coming and itll end quick. Also when theyre going in, that kanetic energy of them going forward and the boxer's punches going forward, will result in much much more pain on the receiving end. Think of it like a car crash. And if the boxer uses a punch with more weight shift in it (straight right, uppercut, anything thats not a jab) itll be even worse. And if the grappler does happen to make his way in boxers know how to grab someone in a way that they cant use their arms, which means they can do anything. And uppercuts and Hooks are thrown the way they are because 1) they are meant for going around the guards so you can block them (usually you have to duck) 2) so that theyre thrown closley (reason you dont even see someone throwing hooks and uppers from far away) 3) So that they hurt much more and transfer all your weight. So getting close only results in even stronger punches.
And getting close to grapples isnt safe, because in order to get them they have to have their hands free to grab, and at that point its in front of them and not up. Boxers hands are always up to protect the face, chest, and stomach. In fighters have the most prominent guard of all and are the hardest punchers whos punches work best at close range.
