vB License Charity
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I did try to ask for vB license donations before, remember? The first reaction you got, was to delete the thread and that the conversion will be done. You didn't give me a choice. Boyd didn't want to give me one at all.
2011-10-08 18:48:59 Sara Vikki Alan-Michael So like, the conversion motivated people and said they'd help out with getting a vB license. We should have enough to get it after the gathering would be officially started. Like, I mean, Kaze said just now he'd donate 100$ this month just to have vB back. Others less, but any money that goes above this, we could donate it to your server funds.
2011-10-08 18:49:03 Sara Vikki Alan-Michael So, how about it?
2011-10-08 18:49:56 Sara Vikki Alan-Michael The only people that didn't mind it so far, were the few AT people that recently came, and I don't want the growing discomfort to keep increasing
2011-10-08 18:50:37 Sara Vikki Alan-Michael Rawr, though 2 of them already said they prefered our vB
2011-10-08 18:53:10 Alan-Michael Sara Vikki other people said they didn't mind it, but if Kaze and others will donate enough to buy the license that is fine. they can donate on the main site and put in the comments that it is for the vB license
2011-10-08 18:53:23 Alan-Michael Sara Vikki and then the license will be purchased.
2011-10-08 18:53:31 Sara Vikki Alan-Michael
And we'd come back to vB? ^.^
2011-10-08 18:53:36 Alan-Michael Sara Vikki yes
There is no coup de'tat, those are pretty much forum related issues. I did ask for your permission to do the donation this time, you agreed, I've even gave you a link to to this thread and you didn't mind it then. For the conversion to IPB, there were several complains back then, you should remember those too. Cana came to me saying it could be done, so I thought it was all agreed between the two of you. But it all went for the best with the conversion back to vB, people were happy, so I was happy too.
2011-10-08 18:48:59 Sara Vikki Alan-Michael So like, the conversion motivated people and said they'd help out with getting a vB license. We should have enough to get it after the gathering would be officially started. Like, I mean, Kaze said just now he'd donate 100$ this month just to have vB back. Others less, but any money that goes above this, we could donate it to your server funds.
2011-10-08 18:49:03 Sara Vikki Alan-Michael So, how about it?
2011-10-08 18:49:56 Sara Vikki Alan-Michael The only people that didn't mind it so far, were the few AT people that recently came, and I don't want the growing discomfort to keep increasing
2011-10-08 18:50:37 Sara Vikki Alan-Michael Rawr, though 2 of them already said they prefered our vB
2011-10-08 18:53:10 Alan-Michael Sara Vikki other people said they didn't mind it, but if Kaze and others will donate enough to buy the license that is fine. they can donate on the main site and put in the comments that it is for the vB license
2011-10-08 18:53:23 Alan-Michael Sara Vikki and then the license will be purchased.
2011-10-08 18:53:31 Sara Vikki Alan-Michael
And we'd come back to vB? ^.^
2011-10-08 18:53:36 Alan-Michael Sara Vikki yes
There is no coup de'tat, those are pretty much forum related issues. I did ask for your permission to do the donation this time, you agreed, I've even gave you a link to to this thread and you didn't mind it then. For the conversion to IPB, there were several complains back then, you should remember those too. Cana came to me saying it could be done, so I thought it was all agreed between the two of you. But it all went for the best with the conversion back to vB, people were happy, so I was happy too.
Donating to the license would not make it publicly owned, the license is owned by he who holds the title. This site still comes down to legal issues and that shapes what happens on any sites of this nature. And the boards are not and will not be publicly owned, the visitors do have a say, but they do not make the final call.
In this case the whip was being cracked extremely hard therefore the change was to be mad quickly. Thank the enemies Emmie has made in her past.
In this case the whip was being cracked extremely hard therefore the change was to be mad quickly. Thank the enemies Emmie has made in her past.
I told you not to try to force it because it wouldn't be well recieved. I told you to remove it because without the approval of alan or the others you were just making trouble that they wouldn't be inclined to accept. I also told you that if you were going to attempt any such thing you should make sure both Alan and Boyd knew about it and had their say on the matter.
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ehhm, yeah, I actually think xF works just fine and see no reason to move back.
Of course there're differences but I don't mind them. Some things are better here, others at vB but I can't see how it's motivated to get vB when licenses for xF has been paid :/
Can't support a change with those arguments....
@Kaze, being a mod is volunteer work, no one makes you do it in any way. You may quit if you wish to not work without payment. Don't use that as an argument >_>
ehhm, yeah, I actually think xF works just fine and see no reason to move back.
Of course there're differences but I don't mind them. Some things are better here, others at vB but I can't see how it's motivated to get vB when licenses for xF has been paid :/
Can't support a change with those arguments....
@Kaze, being a mod is volunteer work, no one makes you do it in any way. You may quit if you wish to not work without payment. Don't use that as an argument >_>
Again. I can't belive I have to repeat this. We were threatened by legal action. We reacted with the only action that made financial sense. We had licenses for IPB and xenforo. Buying a third one for vbulletin is not financially prudent. Our money is involved, our records, our lives. Not yours. If you want to run a forum your way then you are welcome to go buy a server or find another host, buy a license and do what you feel like.
Deleting a members post cause you don't like it is rather childish and abuse of power
As for moving, some of the members like it and have no issues others may
not everyone will agree, but you can't have it all one way
Think it needs to be made clear
1) If there is a reason to move back
2) If we can move back
No point in moving back if it gonna be a major hassle
If Kaze is donating money for the license and its not needed is there a point
end of the day his money he should know whats it going towards
As for moving, some of the members like it and have no issues others may
not everyone will agree, but you can't have it all one way
Think it needs to be made clear
1) If there is a reason to move back
2) If we can move back
No point in moving back if it gonna be a major hassle
If Kaze is donating money for the license and its not needed is there a point
end of the day his money he should know whats it going towards
And that's where my problem lies.
I'm not donating my money for an accountant to allocate it to somewhere else.
It is specifically only for the license, as I did not use the main site - I only come here for the forum.
The community driven forum relationship with the profit oriented driven main site should be mutually beneficial.
Be it as it may, let the forumers (i.e. those who frequent this place and contribute to the forum, regardless of ranks) decide whether they prefer vB or xF.
I'm not donating my money for an accountant to allocate it to somewhere else.
It is specifically only for the license, as I did not use the main site - I only come here for the forum.
The community driven forum relationship with the profit oriented driven main site should be mutually beneficial.
Be it as it may, let the forumers (i.e. those who frequent this place and contribute to the forum, regardless of ranks) decide whether they prefer vB or xF.
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