The Enigma of Anarchism.

Kaze Araki

Kaze Araki

Libertarian Communist
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Initially I wanted to write something about Anarchism in general, but I somewhat confused where to begin with. Then I realize that, regardless of whatever I wrote, any topic about Anarchism will most of the time started with public failure in differentiating Anarchism and Anarchy. Henceforth, I decided to just use this thread to answer common misconception of Anarchism and anything related to Anarchists movements.

Ask and ye shall receive answer.
 
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Chimer

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difference between "Anarchy" and "Anarchism" ?... so that's will be done ... And you always need a stupid guy for the first post...
 
Kaze Araki

Kaze Araki

Libertarian Communist
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Anarchy = A state (situation) of chaos, lawlessness and disorder.
Anarchism = A political doctrine that aims to eliminate the State (not to be confused with government and/or law)
 
Kaze Araki

Kaze Araki

Libertarian Communist
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a people permanently occupying a fixed territory bound together by common habits and custom into one body politic exercising, through the medium of an organized government, independent sovereignty and control over all persons and things within its boundaries, capable of making war and peace and of entering into international relations with other states.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/state
 
Kaze Araki

Kaze Araki

Libertarian Communist
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About State?

"The State represents violence in a concentrated and organized form. The individual has a soul, but as the State is a soulless machine, it can never be weaned from violence to which it owes its very existence."
Mahatma Gandhi
 
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Chimer

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Not About State Kaze=> about your vision of Anarchism And about the results of it.

Kaze Araki said:
About State?

"The State represents violence in a concentrated and organized form. The individual has a soul, but as the State is a soulless machine, it can never be weaned from violence to which it owes its very existence."
Mahatma Gandhi
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This guy was a real one, he nerver lied to himself...
 
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Chimer

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ok but are you not afraid of the human nature.. cause it seems that we know well how can be the human being without any kind of "limits"...
And i don't see anarchism as a limit but as open door on a pandora box...
 
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Chimer

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Sorry...

You said this : I view Anarchism as voluntary socialism, egalitarianism, anti-military and grass-root democracy.

I think it's a quite beautifull humanist vision... but in the fact... I'm not really sure this will work like that cause the human being nature will always want more...... ( imean materiasl things, more rigth to do things, more.. more.. more...)

It's a bit simplist but i don't know how to explain myself in details with english words...
 
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Chimer

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sure human is a social animal... this is a common sens...

Biased by capitalism ??? me ??? just lol , it seems your judging skill is a bit untrained...
And btw already talked with true Anarchists ??

So once again you 'rz insulting me... so once again i'll quit, ithink this is pretty bad cause it seems you got some quite interisting notions but it seems you 're too young to truly understand some things... so with all my respect, i'm leaving.
 
Kaze Araki

Kaze Araki

Libertarian Communist
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I always find it hard to understand what you're trying to say.

First you claim being materialistic is within human nature, to which I pointed out that being social is also (thus refuting your claim that Anarchism will not work - if we are to argue based upon the inherent nature of human being) which is not just mere common sense but empirically proven.

Furthermore, what does true Anarchists suppose to mean? What is the relationship between my understanding of Anarchism and this supposed "true Anarchists"? Are you saying; if my understanding is different from the alleged "true Anarchists" then I am wrong? That's a rather absurd reasoning since Anarchism is a very broad and conflicting ideology as such that the term "true Anarchists" is just bordering nonsenses.

And for the last time, how on earth does my statement "I think you are being biased by capitalism disposition" is insulting? I am somewhat pissed off with your whining attitude, I am not here to babysit your fragile heart. This is not the first time I read your irrelevant whining, if you want to bitch around about irrelevant nonsenses - then I suggest you just fuck off. If you want to refute my claim, then please do so, I'll be happy to answer them.
 
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Chimer

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Kaze Araki said:
I always find it hard to understand what you're trying to say.

First you claim being materialistic is within human nature, to which I pointed out that being social is also (thus refuting your claim that Anarchism will not work - if we are to argue based upon the inherent nature of human being) which is not just mere common sense but empirically proven.

Furthermore, what does true Anarchists suppose to mean? What is the relationship between my understanding of Anarchism and this supposed "true Anarchists"? Are you saying; if my understanding is different from the alleged "true Anarchists" then I am wrong? That's a rather absurd reasoning since Anarchism is a very broad and conflicting ideology as such that the term "true Anarchists" is just bordering nonsenses.

And for the last time, how on earth does my statement "I think you are being biased by capitalism disposition" is insulting? I am somewhat pissed off with your whining attitude, I am not here to babysit your fragile heart. This is not the first time I read your irrelevant whining, if you want to bitch around about irrelevant nonsenses - then I suggest you just fuck off. If you want to refute my claim, then please do so, I'll be happy to answer them.
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Yeah i know that was just an example of how human being can be...
For the rest of your words...
 
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noex1337

Emmie was here
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So this is probably what Chimer was going to ask, but how does greed factor in to your anarchist philosophy? I think human nature is probably the reason why this has never become reality.
 
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