(have understanding with me im just getting back to the debate world again some things will take a while before i get back into shape ^^; *like getting my thoughts in order again <.<*)
Of course. I'm sorry if I came off as rude. It's just that my poor thread has been spammed very badly and I wasn't clear that I wanted this thread to mostly discuss reforms. Thank you for replying!
Once again, sorry if I come off as rude. I was always trained to approach debates without mercy. :coool:
Ah sorry will elaborate on why such an Utopia would be bad. Lol and in coldblooded i mean that hard ships and suffering is not something that can be removed it needs to stay so that we can continue to fight for it to be removed it's the journey that is important here not the goal.
So bad things with that kind of Utopia well. Many basic instincts would decrease in activity such as having kids, expand, improve, evolve and learn. Humans are lazy and comfortable in nature. So satisfying the basic needs would remove the larger reasons that keeps them moving. In an Utopia the wast majority would end up like consuming machines that lives a happy life where family, work and many such things slowly disappear. [MENTION=1300]Chimer[/MENTION]
You make an excellent point.
In fact, this question bothered me for quite a long time.
"If making society more comfortable for people causes them to become more lazy. Then how does one create a better society without the people within that society becoming lazy!"
Another huge problem: evolution begins to backslide. Instead of rewarding people with ideal traits such as intelligence or moral character, in comfortable societies, evolution simply rewards those who
breed the most. That is an upsetting conclusion.
But after hours of meditation, I came up with solution for that problem: Create artificial struggle.
That is why I proposed a rigorous educational system where children are fed based upon how well they preform in physical training, scholastic skills, and the arts. It would be balanced so that an average of 10% of children would starve to death in their education which would stretch from the age of five to sixteen.
In such a system, individuals are trained to become strong, competitive, and hardworking, and evolution is still effectively controlled. Children are taught the strong lesson "If I don't preform, I don't eat", which makes success and hard work core to their ethos.
Is such a system cruel? Of course. But it ensures continued progress without mankind becoming too lazy or comfortable.
The western world has it's own problem like the consumer life style that we currently live in and is now showing how unreliable it is. Although it makes things go round we need to take it down a few notches. Sadly my knowledge in that area is severely lacking but i do hope you know what i am getting at.
If you mean that capitalism is out of control, then yeah, we agree.