[quote name='Murasaki Cho']
How to present an objective evidence over a fiction creation?
Most happened in the battle threads is confronting certain character from certain manga/anime/comic with another character from another manga/anime/comic, whereas never really happened in the real story.
How can you fairly cross confront characters? All arguments will evolve on "I think...", I think.[/QUOTE]
Not necessarily
Fairness comes in the comparison of feats (what a character or verse is shown to do). Objective evidence for said feats comes in the form of linking or citing manga/ comic pages (or citing episodes for anime only verses).
For example lets take a look at this fight; Goku (canon, not GT) vs Pre-Crisis Superman
Who do you think would win?
My bets and solid answer would be that Superman would severely stomp Goku in his tracks. Why?
Destructive Capability
Goku's best destructive capability is blowing up a planet (as seen when he blew up Namek in the Freeza Saga)
Superman has shown to juggle planets with one hand, blow away stars with his breath, use heat vision to blow up multiple planets and stars, use icy breath to freeze multiple planets and stars
Thus Superman wins in the Destructive capability
Speed
Goku is fast no doubt. He was able to dodge lightning, putting him at least mach 1000+ catagory
Superman however has shown to escape black holes, cross the universe in mere seconds and the multiverse (multiple universes) in minutes, making him massively faster than the speed of light
Thus Superman wins in the speed department
Durability
Goku has shown to tank attacks that have destroyed planets
Superman has tanked quassars and magnetic energies equal to hundreds of Galaxies
Superman wins this one as well
Strength
Goku has shown to smash down mountains, kick guys through multiple islands and jump incredibly high in the air
Superman has shown to move planets, just with his breath alone, and towing entire Galaxies
Superman wins this once again
Thus i can state that Pre Crisis Superman beats Goku, since Superman has excelled Goku in Speed, Durability, Strength and overall Destructive Capability from what has been shown. Battle threads are a who would win if these opponents were pitted against each other using their best feats, (unless the opener decides to tone down one side, usually to make it more fair for the opposition), not a "has this happened in the story?" thread.
How to present an objective evidence over a fiction creation?
Most happened in the battle threads is confronting certain character from certain manga/anime/comic with another character from another manga/anime/comic, whereas never really happened in the real story.
How can you fairly cross confront characters? All arguments will evolve on "I think...", I think.[/QUOTE]
Not necessarily
Fairness comes in the comparison of feats (what a character or verse is shown to do). Objective evidence for said feats comes in the form of linking or citing manga/ comic pages (or citing episodes for anime only verses).
For example lets take a look at this fight; Goku (canon, not GT) vs Pre-Crisis Superman
Who do you think would win?
My bets and solid answer would be that Superman would severely stomp Goku in his tracks. Why?
Destructive Capability
Goku's best destructive capability is blowing up a planet (as seen when he blew up Namek in the Freeza Saga)
Superman has shown to juggle planets with one hand, blow away stars with his breath, use heat vision to blow up multiple planets and stars, use icy breath to freeze multiple planets and stars
Thus Superman wins in the Destructive capability
Speed
Goku is fast no doubt. He was able to dodge lightning, putting him at least mach 1000+ catagory
Superman however has shown to escape black holes, cross the universe in mere seconds and the multiverse (multiple universes) in minutes, making him massively faster than the speed of light
Thus Superman wins in the speed department
Durability
Goku has shown to tank attacks that have destroyed planets
Superman has tanked quassars and magnetic energies equal to hundreds of Galaxies
Superman wins this one as well
Strength
Goku has shown to smash down mountains, kick guys through multiple islands and jump incredibly high in the air
Superman has shown to move planets, just with his breath alone, and towing entire Galaxies
Superman wins this once again
Thus i can state that Pre Crisis Superman beats Goku, since Superman has excelled Goku in Speed, Durability, Strength and overall Destructive Capability from what has been shown. Battle threads are a who would win if these opponents were pitted against each other using their best feats, (unless the opener decides to tone down one side, usually to make it more fair for the opposition), not a "has this happened in the story?" thread.